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	<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/</link>
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Ealden</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-27</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 09:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hehe I sure hope so.  Should get a reply for teh P L D Teh this week...

O&amp;#38;B is work from home unless if we have to train.  Unfortunately we have to train a lot for the coming months, so there.

In the SE context, my bosses (not that I call them that of course) believe that some things can be done individually, while some benefits from team coding.  The trick is to set the balance correctly of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hehe I sure hope so.  Should get a reply for teh P L D Teh this week&#8230;</p>
	<p>O&amp;B is work from home unless if we have to train.  Unfortunately we have to train a lot for the coming months, so there.</p>
	<p>In the SE context, my bosses (not that I call them that of course) believe that some things can be done individually, while some benefits from team coding.  The trick is to set the balance correctly of course.
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Pipboy</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-26</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 02:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>^^ Horatio B. Bogbindero &amp;#62;

i agree that times have changed and connectivity has increased - allowing for more methods of working. 
one could work at home or with flexitime if:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;work is structured&lt;/strong&gt; (it wouldn't be good to solve a complex problem that requires team effort alone)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;has a definite resolution time&lt;/strong&gt; (the startup and shutdown phases necessary to get the brain or work running is going to be expensive and counterproductive if problems are spread over many sessions).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>^^ Horatio B. Bogbindero &gt;</p>
	<p>i agree that times have changed and connectivity has increased - allowing for more methods of working.<br />
one could work at home or with flexitime if:</p>
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	<li><strong>work is structured</strong> (it wouldn&#8217;t be good to solve a complex problem that requires team effort alone)</li>
	<li><strong>has a definite resolution time</strong> (the startup and shutdown phases necessary to get the brain or work running is going to be expensive and counterproductive if problems are spread over many sessions).</li>
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Pipboy</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-25</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 02:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>^^ Ealden &amp;#62; 

you'll get your broadband soon... well, as soon as PLDT gets more &quot;ports&quot; available. hehe

during the 70s, very few people had computers at home, if any at all. most computers back then were mainframes and minis. you're one rich bastard if you had a machine at home you could use for remote access. hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>^^ Ealden &gt; </p>
	<p>you&#8217;ll get your broadband soon&#8230; well, as soon as PLDT gets more &#8220;ports&#8221; available. hehe</p>
	<p>during the 70s, very few people had computers at home, if any at all. most computers back then were mainframes and minis. you&#8217;re one rich bastard if you had a machine at home you could use for remote access. hehe
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Horatio B. Bogbindero</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-24</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 01:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-24</guid>
					<description>8-5pm schedule was built by convention. basically, so that everybody agrees to work at those times so that all necessary services and contacts are available. 

however, in this day of mobile phones and the Internet, this time restriction is not really relevant anymore. 

i believe research should go into better telecommuting technologies. most IT companies (being familiar with the technology) are more progressive. they have flexi-schedules (come in 8-10am and go home at 5-7pm) and telecommuting days (days were employees are forced to work at home).

things are changing ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>8-5pm schedule was built by convention. basically, so that everybody agrees to work at those times so that all necessary services and contacts are available. </p>
	<p>however, in this day of mobile phones and the Internet, this time restriction is not really relevant anymore. </p>
	<p>i believe research should go into better telecommuting technologies. most IT companies (being familiar with the technology) are more progressive. they have flexi-schedules (come in 8-10am and go home at 5-7pm) and telecommuting days (days were employees are forced to work at home).</p>
	<p>things are changing &#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Ealden</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-23</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 11:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-23</guid>
					<description>Server work at home feels like the 1970's*.

How I wish I have broadband.

* Of course, that's just a guess, since I never lived in the 70's, nor do I plan to anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Server work at home feels like the 1970&#8217;s*.</p>
	<p>How I wish I have broadband.</p>
	<p>* Of course, that&#8217;s just a guess, since I never lived in the 70&#8217;s, nor do I plan to anytime soon.
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Pipboy</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-22</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 00:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-22</guid>
					<description>i agree. work can be very fun and it wouldn't matter if it became one's life - i.e. professional gamer, server hacker, or whatever one wants to do. work can be very fulfilling as long as the desires of the flesh *lol* are taken care of. after the physiological needs of man, can we only take care of the psychological needs for a happy life.

*oh, and server work is teh l337*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>i agree. work can be very fun and it wouldn&#8217;t matter if it became one&#8217;s life - i.e. professional gamer, server hacker, or whatever one wants to do. work can be very fulfilling as long as the desires of the flesh *lol* are taken care of. after the physiological needs of man, can we only take care of the psychological needs for a happy life.</p>
	<p>*oh, and server work is teh l337*
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 		<title>Comment on 8-to-5? no thanks. by: Ealden</title>
		<link>http://pipboy.paminta.com/2006/05/04/8-to-5-no-thanks/#comment-21</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 00:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I suppose one of the reasons is that people differential their &quot;work life&quot; from &quot;real life&quot;.  &quot;Work life&quot; starts at a specific time and ends a specific time, which is the start of &quot;real life&quot;.

Right now I'm sort of working 12 hour days, 6-7 days a week, but that's because I'm young (uh huh) and work and real life are intertwined.  Maybe things will change when I get older and start a family or something, but for now this is my perspective.

Oh and I get a kick out of working on the server in the wee hours of the morning :-P

I also believe in the philosophy or whatnot of a company, that their (from your words) principles, motivation, and goals should be made clear to me.  But we're part of the lucky ones, who are more-or-less in a good position to not worry about problems of the flesh (that didn't sound right).

Like what they say in philosophy, you only do it when your basic needs are taken care of.  Same thing with FOSS I suppose - new ones tend to think of it being free as in libre, but as you grow and become more secure you think of the philosophy and whatnot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I suppose one of the reasons is that people differential their &#8220;work life&#8221; from &#8220;real life&#8221;.  &#8220;Work life&#8221; starts at a specific time and ends a specific time, which is the start of &#8220;real life&#8221;.</p>
	<p>Right now I&#8217;m sort of working 12 hour days, 6-7 days a week, but that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m young (uh huh) and work and real life are intertwined.  Maybe things will change when I get older and start a family or something, but for now this is my perspective.</p>
	<p>Oh and I get a kick out of working on the server in the wee hours of the morning <img src='http://pipboy.paminta.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>I also believe in the philosophy or whatnot of a company, that their (from your words) principles, motivation, and goals should be made clear to me.  But we&#8217;re part of the lucky ones, who are more-or-less in a good position to not worry about problems of the flesh (that didn&#8217;t sound right).</p>
	<p>Like what they say in philosophy, you only do it when your basic needs are taken care of.  Same thing with FOSS I suppose - new ones tend to think of it being free as in libre, but as you grow and become more secure you think of the philosophy and whatnot.
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